{"id":3976,"date":"2018-11-08T13:10:17","date_gmt":"2018-11-08T12:10:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/?p=3976"},"modified":"2018-11-08T13:13:50","modified_gmt":"2018-11-08T12:13:50","slug":"signal-generator-ty-85","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/2018\/11\/08\/signal-generator-ty-85\/","title":{"rendered":"Signal generator TY-85"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Danas je nabavljen generator moduliranog RF signala TY-85, japanskog proizvo\u0111a\u010da BELCO, iz 1960-tih godina.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_01.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[3976]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3977\" src=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_01-727x1024.jpg\" alt=\"signal_generator_ty85_01\" width=\"727\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_01-727x1024.jpg 727w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_01-213x300.jpg 213w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_01-768x1082.jpg 768w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_01.jpg 1396w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 727px) 100vw, 727px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_02.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[3976]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3978\" src=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_02-810x1024.jpg\" alt=\"signal_generator_ty85_02\" width=\"810\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_02-810x1024.jpg 810w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_02-237x300.jpg 237w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_02-768x971.jpg 768w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_02.jpg 1610w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 810px) 100vw, 810px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Signal generator TY-85 mo\u017ee proizvesti sinusne VF oscilacije u rasponu od 100 kHz do 300 MHz podijeljeno u \u0161est frekvencijskih podru\u010dja. Vidimo da zadnja skala (F) ima dvostruke oznake frekvencija, \u0161to govori da su najvi\u0161e frekvencije 130-300 MHz zapravo drugi harmonici temeljnog frekvencijskog opsega 40-150 MHz.<\/p>\n<p>VF signal mogu\u0107e je amplitudno modulirati NF signalom preko internog NF oscilatora frekvencije 400 Hz sa podesivom dubinom modulacije od 0-60% ili preko nekog vanjskog izvora (kontrole na lijevoj strani prednje plo\u010de).<\/p>\n<p>Ja\u010dinu izlaznog VF signala mogu\u0107e je podesiti u rasponu 0-100 \u00b5V RMS u &#8220;L&#8221; poziciji sklopke, odnosno u rasponu 0-100 mV RMS u &#8220;H&#8221; poziciji sklopke (kontrole na desnoj strani plo\u010de).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_03.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[3976]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3979\" src=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_03-811x1024.jpg\" alt=\"signal_generator_ty85_03\" width=\"811\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_03-811x1024.jpg 811w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_03-238x300.jpg 238w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_03-768x970.jpg 768w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_03.jpg 1717w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 811px) 100vw, 811px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Po elektri\u010dnoj shemi vidimo da se signal generator TY-85 bazira na dvije elektronske cijevi, dvostrukim triodama 12AT7 i 12AX7. Prva trioda cijevi 12AT7 je u spoju VF Colpittsovog LC oscilatora, dok je druga trioda u spoju katodnog slijedila (katodnog rastavlja\u010da ili eng. cathode-follower). Ovakav spoj triode nema poja\u010danje ulaznog signala (\u010dak je izlazni signal i ne\u0161to slabiji od ulaznog) no ovim stupnjem se posti\u017ee vrlo dobro prilago\u0111enje impedancija i odvajanje oscilatora od utjecaja sklopova na koji ga spajamo. Time se osigurava dobra stabilnost i nezavisnost oscilatora od optere\u0107enja na njegovom izlazu.<\/p>\n<p>Prva trioda cijevi 12AX7 je u spoju NF oscilatora sa RC krugom za zakretanje faze, dok je druga trioda cijevi u spoju NF poja\u010dala na \u010diju re\u0161etku se mo\u017ee dovesti signal iz NF oscilatora prve triode ili neki drugi NF signal preko vanjskih priklju\u010dnica.<\/p>\n<p>Zanimljivo je da je ispravljanje anodnog napona za elektronske cijevi izvedeno poluvodi\u010dkom diodom.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_11.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[3976]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3987\" src=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_11-1024x627.jpg\" alt=\"signal_generator_ty85_11\" width=\"1024\" height=\"627\" srcset=\"http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_11-1024x627.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_11-300x184.jpg 300w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_11-768x471.jpg 768w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_11-570x350.jpg 570w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_11.jpg 1105w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Principe rada oba oscilatora ve\u0107 smo opisali u objavama <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/2018\/10\/27\/high-kit-fm-signal-generator-uk460\/\">High-kit FM SIGNAL GENERATOR UK460<\/a> i <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/2018\/10\/30\/high-kit-crystal-calibrated-marker-generator-uk470\/\" target=\"_blank\">High-kit CRYSTAL-CALIBRATED MARKER GENERATOR UK470<\/a>. U elektroni\u010dkim sklopovima naj\u010de\u0161\u0107e susre\u0107emo tri osnovne vrste oscilatora: one kojima se pozitivna povratna veza ostvaruje preko LC (zavojnica &#8211; kondenzator) elemenata, one kojima se pozitivna povratna veza ostvaruje preko RC (otpornik &#8211; kondenzator) elemenata, te na one koji se baziraju na kristalima. Naj\u010de\u0161\u0107i LC oscilatori su Hartley, Colpitts i Clapps, dok su naj\u010de\u0161\u0107i RC oscilatori oni koji se baziraju na Wienovom mostu i RC mre\u017ei za zakretanje (pomak) faze. Svaki tip oscilatora ima svoje specifi\u010dnosti, pa su tako neki pogodniji za ni\u017ee, drugi za vi\u0161e frekvencije, neki su pogodniji za izradu oscilatora s promjenjivom frekvencijom (VFO) dok su drugi za fiksne frekvencije i sli\u010dno.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_04.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[3976]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3980\" src=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_04-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"signal_generator_ty85_04\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_04-1024x768.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_04-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_04-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>LC krug Colpittsovog oscilatora koji je ugra\u0111en u Signal generator TY-85 sastoji se od serijskog spoja dva ista promjenjiva kondenzatora na istoj osovini (sa tog spoja uzima se signal pozitivne povratne veze) kojima se paralelno spajaju zavojnice za pojedine frekvencijske opsege. Time je preklapanjem zavojnica u LC oscilatoru postignuta promjena frekvencijskih opsega, a promjenom kapaciteta kondenzatora u istom krugu posti\u017ee se fina promjena frekvencija unutar pojedinih opsega. Ovakvu izvedbu VFO-a \u010desto \u0107emo susretati kod razli\u010ditih VF signal generatora. Sredi\u0161nji izvodi na zavojnicama slu\u017ee za zatvaranje negativne povratne sprege sa katodnog slijedila.<\/p>\n<p>Tako\u0111er, ukoliko nam je potreban modulacijski NF oscilator fiksne frekvencije kao \u0161to je to slu\u010daj kod na\u0161eg ure\u0111aja (400 Hz) naj\u010de\u0161\u0107i izbor \u0107e biti RC oscilator sa zakretanjem faze, dok \u0107e primjerice kod NF audio generatora gdje je potreban promjenjivi frekvencijski oscilator za \u0161iroko podru\u010dje (do 1 MHz) izbor gotovo uvijek pasti na Wienov RC oscilator.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_05.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[3976]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3981\" src=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_05-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"signal_generator_ty85_05\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" srcset=\"http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_05-1024x683.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_05-300x200.jpg 300w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_05-768x513.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_06.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[3976]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3982\" src=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_06-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"signal_generator_ty85_06\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_06-1024x768.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_06-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_06-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_07.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[3976]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3983\" src=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_07-1024x681.jpg\" alt=\"signal_generator_ty85_07\" width=\"1024\" height=\"681\" srcset=\"http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_07-1024x681.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_07-300x199.jpg 300w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_07-768x510.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_08.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[3976]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3984\" src=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_08-1024x875.jpg\" alt=\"signal_generator_ty85_08\" width=\"1024\" height=\"875\" srcset=\"http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_08-1024x875.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_08-300x256.jpg 300w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_08-768x656.jpg 768w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_08.jpg 2021w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Kod nabavke ovog na\u0161eg starog cijevnog instrumenata imali smo sre\u0107e \u0161to je ostala sa\u010duvana originalna kutija i priklju\u010dni kabel. Ovakav tip priklju\u010dka mo\u017eemo ponegdje susresti na starim audio komponentama i radio ure\u0111ajima, a zahvaljuju\u0107i internetu danas je jo\u0161 uvijek mogu\u0107e nabaviti replike ovih konektora, obi\u010dno pod nazivom &#8220;Audio Old Style Vintage Ham Radio Connector&#8221; ili ne\u0161to sli\u010dno tome.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_09.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[3976]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3985\" src=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_09-1024x869.jpg\" alt=\"signal_generator_ty85_09\" width=\"1024\" height=\"869\" srcset=\"http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_09-1024x869.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_09-300x254.jpg 300w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_09-768x651.jpg 768w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_09.jpg 2037w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Testiranje je pokazalo da na\u0161 primjerak Signal generatora TY-85 radi, kako u VF tako i u NF dijelu. Oscilograf prikazuje VF signal amplitudno moduliran internim NF signalom od 400 Hz. Stabilnost amplituda posti\u017ee se ve\u0107 nakon 20-tak sekundi i doista mo\u017eemo biti zadovoljni izlaznim signalom iz ovog cijevnog generatora starog gotovo 60 godina sa jo\u0161 uvijek svim originalnim dijelovima.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_10.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[3976]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3986\" src=\"http:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_10.jpg\" alt=\"signal_generator_ty85_10\" width=\"948\" height=\"738\" srcset=\"http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_10.jpg 948w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_10-300x234.jpg 300w, http:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_10-768x598.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 948px) 100vw, 948px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>VF signal generatori nezamjenjivi su ure\u0111aji u svakoj elektroni\u010dkoj RTV radionici. \u00a0S obzirom da se ovdje radi o odli\u010dno o\u010duvanom vintage cijevnom primjerku takvog generatora \u0161teta bi ga bilo koristiti u pogonske svrhe, a s druge strane \u0161teta ga je i \u010duvati u kutiji zaboravljenog u nekom kutku za odlaganje manje potrebnih stvari. Lijep i kompaktan dizajn Signal generatora TY-85 zaslu\u017euje izlo\u017ebeno mjesto na nekoj polici, gdje \u0107e nas uz neki suvremeniji VF generator podsje\u0107ati na \u010dinjenicu da su mnogi elektroni\u010dki sklopovi koji se danas ugra\u0111uju u najmodernije ure\u0111aje, zapravo izmi\u0161ljeni i primjenjivani jo\u0161 u samim po\u010decima razvoja elektronike \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Danas je nabavljen generator moduliranog RF signala TY-85, japanskog proizvo\u0111a\u010da BELCO, iz 1960-tih godina. Signal generator TY-85 mo\u017ee proizvesti sinusne VF oscilacije u rasponu od 100 kHz do 300 MHz podijeljeno u \u0161est frekvencijskih podru\u010dja. Vidimo da zadnja skala (F) ima dvostruke oznake frekvencija, \u0161to govori da su najvi\u0161e frekvencije 130-300 MHz zapravo drugi harmonici [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3982,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[66],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-3976","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-generatori-signala","8":"czr-hentry"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/crowave.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/signal_generator_ty85_06.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3976","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3976"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3976\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3990,"href":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3976\/revisions\/3990"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3982"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3976"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3976"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.crowave.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3976"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}